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Posted: January 26, 2003 08:50 pm

We compare 3 water additives! See how they match up with each other!

Review link: HERE

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Posted: January 26, 2003 10:01 pm

no actual #'s? oh well.. I really want to try Zerex, but I dont want to pay people like 12 bucks for a 12 oz bottle when the actual antifreeze container probably doesnt cost that much. next time I'm at an auto supercenter i'll have to order some or something.. Cheers

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Posted: January 27, 2003 08:45 pm

You should test Silkolene ProCCA. The required concentration is half of what you tested.

Any additive should theoretically reduce, ever so slightly, the cooling ability of the water. I believe that if you're going to make the claim that most additives improve cooling, you should show numbers (water temps would do), and state your margin of error in the measurement.

As a guide, the CPU diode has an error margin of at least +/- 1.0 deg C.

DigitalChaos compared WW with purple ice in this thread.

The infamous BillA would tell all to stay away from Water Wetter, because over time, it leaves a sludge (thin slimy deposit) in the loop. Then again, maybe he didn't read this article. He would have known to flush and refill every 6 months.

Overall, I am finding out that the old-and-true method to keep a loop clean, is to stay away from using different metals, and adding a couple of drops of Jet-Dry, but my fluid won't be entirely water either... I'll update later.

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Posted: January 28, 2003 08:35 pm

Hy-per Lube is also very good... and I've heard it glows under UV lights! http://64.162.250.126/prod_cool.asp

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Posted: January 29, 2003 03:30 am

QUOTE (bigben2k @ Jan 27 2003, 02:45 PM)

I agree... some numbers would be nice to see.

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Posted: January 30, 2003 02:32 am

Thanks for the suggestions, I will look into getting some Hy-per Lube and Silkolene ProCCA.

As for temps, here they are. Please note that the margin of error is rather high, and therefore can only be used as a reference, even if you were to repeat my procedures exactly, your results may vary

Regular water
CPU: 34c (72+ hours avg.)
water 27c

Purple ice
CPU: 32c (8 hours avg.)
water: 28c

Water Wetter
CPU: 33c (8 hours avg.)
water 29c

Zerex
CPU: 32c (8 hours avg.)
water 29c

CPU tems on die,
Water temps mesured with Digital Doc 5.

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Posted: January 30, 2003 01:59 pm

That'll do it.

You can see that your CPU temps are highest, when your water is coolest.

Non-sequitur.

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Posted: January 30, 2003 07:51 pm

Yes, that does seem odd, the reason for this may be because the CPU temp is an average of x number of hours. the water temp, unfortunatly, was not an average. Again, there is a large margin of error, and this is why i was hesitant to post them in the first place.

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Posted: January 30, 2003 08:18 pm

Now imagine if the temps actually made sense...

Silkolene is hard to find. You can order it from http://66.34.104.150/merchant4/merchant.mv...y_Code=Maintain

or http://www.silkolenestore.com (It's a long surf job...through the "Maintain" sub-menu)

It's available as a 100ml bottle and a 0.5 litre jug. It costs 10.99, and that site charges a $10 shipping fee

It should be available at specialty racing stores.

There is very little information available, and it doesn't say anything about corrosion prevention, at least on the site. The plus side of it is: it only needs a 1% mixing ratio.

You can try to contact them through their HQ's page: www.silkolene.com

If you place an order, let me know, I'll share the shipping with you

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Posted: January 31, 2003 03:34 pm

I e-mailed the Silkolene head office. I'll let you know what they say.

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Posted: January 31, 2003 04:57 pm

Got it.

CCA stands for "Corrosion Control Additive", so it's there!

I was given a link, but I can't make it work:
http://www.fuchlubricants.com/silkolene

I got a flyer, in PDF, for "Pro Cool". (PM me an addy for a copy)

I also got the MSDS, and it says that it's "an aqueous blend of propylene glycol with corrosion inhibitors" (ProCCA doesn't have any glycols in it). It is flammable.

The flyer states not to add water to it (ProCool), because it would reduce its corrosion inhibiting properties: it's already made up of 50% distilled water. It's designed to prevent foaming, which is always good.

So I'll ask my source about how it's working out!

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Posted: January 31, 2003 06:43 pm

My source says: "it's all good! Been using it for 5 months now, and recently took a 1 oz sample: as clear as day one!"

Found another link to it:
http://shop.store.yahoo.com/fuchs-sg/42.html
(German)

Found it in the USA (FL):
http://www.mxsouth.com/silkolene/silchesercca.htm

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